In this episode of Podcast Growth Tools, I sit down with Savannah Gilbo, writing coach, course creator, and host of The Fiction Writing Made Easy Podcast. Savannah helps aspiring fiction authors plan, write, and finish their novels — guiding thousands of writers through both the craft and mindset of storytelling.

Learn how to use the Podcast-First Framework to grow your show faster through collaboration. Kylee Chandler shares how to plan and record podcast swaps, build deeper connections, and turn one conversation into dozens of high-performing marketing assets.

In this episode, I’m walking you through 5 of the most valuable results I help my clients get — none of which are tied to downloads. These are the behind-the-scenes wins that actually matter for growth, lead generation, and conversion.

This episode breaks down the tangible steps you can take right now to shift from podcast-as-a-nurture-tool to podcast-as-a-growth-engine.

If you’ve ever wished that your podcast episodes could work double duty—growing your downloads while also increasing email list sign-ups—this episode is for you.

Want to grow your podcast audience and email list at the same time? Discover 10 proven strategies to boost podcast growth, increase email list sign-ups, and master online marketing. Learn how to convert listeners into email subscribers and use email marketing to drive more podcast downloads.

Whether you’re a seasoned podcaster or just getting started, this episode is packed with insights to help you grow your audience and podcast downloads, deepen engagement, and turn your show into a marketing powerhouse.

So grab a notebook (or open a fresh Google Doc), and let’s jump right into it!